Post Election Feels: The Power of Community Healing and Activism

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Are you feeling overwhelmed by post-election emotions? You’re not alone. In this episode, we open up about our own reactions to Donald Trump’s re-election and the ways community support can help us navigate challenging times. We share personal stories of finding validation and comfort through supportive connections and emphasize the importance of giving ourselves space to process difficult feelings like grief and frustration.



This episode is here to encourage you to embrace your emotions and seek out daily magic moments even when times feel tough.

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0:01
Welcome to Demystify Magic with Molly and Madison.
I'm Molly, a former skeptic turned full time energy healer and teacher.
And I'm Madison, a born and raised witch running my family's crystal shop.
And we're here to explore all things woo through the lens of both science and spirituality, so that you can find the moments of magic in your everyday life and create an intentional spiritual practice.
0:20
So if that's what you're into, find a cozy spot, take a deep breath, and let's demystify some magic.
How do you do D friends?
Duty.
Howdy friends.
It has been quite the week.
It's been a week.
And to be completely honest, I don't know that either of us really knew how to get back in the saddle of creating after this past week.
0:44
For those who maybe don't know or listening to this many years in the future, for which I would love to say to you, please come here and tell me that it's all OK.
If you're from the future, the the United States election was this past Tuesday.
1:01
It'll have been a week since then when this episode comes out and Donald Trump won a second term.
And if you're listening to that and thinking that that's great news, I guess I'm happy you feel that way.
1:17
We don't, and I don't really have any words for it other than like fear is what has been the undercurrent of what I felt over the last few days.
And that has been the undertone of the messages that we've received as well.
1:34
And I will say we did our episode last week on the magic of voting.
Somebody message us saying thank you for that episode.
And I hope that the hate isn't too bad for you guys.
And I will say that we did not get one nasty message.
Yeah, and so I think I got 1.
1:51
Like the way that I've seen this community like come together and show up for each other has been really inspiring.
And I hope that we can continue to do that for the next 4 years, the next 4 decades, as long as it takes.
Can I give you a cool statistic about my community which is an extension of this community please?
2:09
So a few of my creator friends and I all posted kind of like, you know, in this community, trans lives matter, Black lives matter, reproductive rights are human rights, etcetera.
Like we posted our beliefs like really blatantly on our page.
And a lot of my creator friends, they were like, I'm losing thousands of followers.
2:28
And I'm, you know, like I had no idea that such a huge part of my community did not know and resonate with my values.
And I was, I remember last week being so nervous to put that podcast episode out.
We were a wreck about it.
We were, we were so nervous because even though I think my views are pretty obvious, I, you never know until you put them out there.
2:49
And then I realized the T-shirts that I wear in most of my reels, I put that out there.
I put that post out there and lost 453 followers which is .2% of the community which made me feel really good.
3:06
Like a 453 bigots are no longer in our community and B.
Like if our community ever felt like a safe space, I feel like statistically that's been proven because everyone else I know it was like huge percentages of their followers.
3:23
A friend of mine lost like 10K, which like followers are not everything, but it just goes to show like you all are here and we hold the same values.
And that like means more to me than a number on a profile ever could mean.
And it just felt like such a cool.
3:38
Like I always felt like our community was a safe space and I always felt like we're on the same page.
And I feel like that really proved it to me.
Yeah, I had a similar experience.
I posted on the Spellcrafter page because we pull a a card of the day every morning and tell me that it was not the Three of Swords on Tuesday.
3:56
What does that mean?
It's the one.
It's the one with the three swords going through a heart.
Oh, uh huh.
Actually it.
Was on Wednesday, sorry.
It was on Wednesday that we pulled it.
And so I posted a picture of that card with just a call to say that my business is a safe space and my business is a place that will fight for for us, for you, for for everyone.
4:22
And I was terrified to post it.
And I think it's like the most popular post we've ever made.
I don't think I didn't check my follower account before I posted it because I was like, not gonna get myself.
And that's because I haven't looked at the stats.
But no hateful comments.
4:38
Yeah.
Didn't lose.
It's like everything is looks normal.
Yeah.
But all that to say.
We're not afraid to speak up now.
We're not afraid to speak up now.
And if anything, we're just gonna get louder.
So if you don't like it, fuck off.
This is not the podcast for you.
4:56
Yeah, there's 1000 other witchy podcast.
Yeah, and I think that I've learned a lot of hard lessons since 2016, and I am not going to sit quietly through another four years.
5:14
You have not heard the last of me, Donald Trump.
And until it is illegal for me to say it, I will say it.
Fuck you.
Fuck you, Donald Trump.
But all that to say, this episode we are gonna use our mess and talk about how we're getting through it, how we're planning to get through the next four years and how we're planning to use our practice to get there.
5:41
And so if you don't love our chatty episodes, this might not be the one for you.
Because when I tell you our outline is maybe 12 collective words, I tell you our outline, boys.
Yeah, it's not.
We just said we're showing up as our best.
6:00
We're doing the best we can today.
And that's what you're going to get.
Here we are.
And we love you.
Howdy Doody, let's roll.
Molly, what was your magic moment?
My magic moment is I'm recording this for my new house.
Beautiful.
6:19
Feels like such a weird, like it feels weird to be like I had this huge celebration in the midst of this like chaotic shitty week.
I know I was like I had to have a good long hard think about my magic moment.
Yeah, I think magic, we're going to talk about this, but magic moments are so important in times like these because fuck it, I'll just get into it now.
6:40
Because your brain has a negativity bias.
And so it has that because it's designed for survival.
We know this.
We know our brain looks at the negative more than it looks at the positive.
We know that the negative will always outweigh the positive when it comes to your brain's wiring.
And also there are legitimate reasons to be worried and be scared right now.
7:01
And I'm not, you know, saying we shouldn't focus on those things and we shouldn't have those things.
And, and when we start to remember the little moments of magic, the little glimmers, right, that we experience in our day, it can help everything that feels heavy right now feel just a tiny bit lighter, just a tiny bit lighter.
7:24
And that's not to say like, let's bypass all the shit that's happening.
That's to say like we need to lighten the load a little bit if we're going to continue on, right?
Like you can't carry a backpack full of rocks up Mount Everest.
You know, you need to you need to take some of those rocks out.
So my magic moment is we moved.
7:42
I'm in a new house.
It feels great.
It feels very strange still feels like I'm living in a hotel currently recording in a room that is very disorganized and disheveled.
We don't have an oven or a stove right now because we moved in and all our appliances were broken.
8:03
And it's been, it's been lovely and amazing and like a really lovely place to just like rest my head at night.
So that's my magic moment.
What's yours?
So my magic moment is, I'm sorry, election related, but I really realized, like we keep hearing people say how important community is and how important community will be going forward.
8:31
And on Wednesday night, the day after the election, the day that we pulled the Three of Swords, we had an event that had been scheduled for like months, that it was a book launch party for a local witch author, small business owner Kobe Michael, who his second book just came out, The Poison Path Grimoire.
8:58
Highly recommend.
He's a lovely human being and a really talented author and person.
And he asked if he could have if he could host a launch event in the store.
It came out on Election Day.
9:14
And so we were like, OK, like, what's we'll push it back a day.
Like, we'll do it the day after with like the thought process being that things would be very different that day.
And like, full transparency, I did not want to go.
9:31
We had to drive to Orlando for like a wholesale show thing during the day.
And so had been up since like 6:00 AM, losing my marbles, driving to Orlando, pretending to be like a normal human being, got home at like two or three and fully like my body gave out and I took a 2 hour nap that I was not supposed to take.
9:52
And the desire in me to stay in bed and say, I'm sorry, I can't do this was strong.
But I knew Anthony was there and I, you know, I really wanted to show up for Kobe.
And so I got up and I went and two of like, my favorite local friends showed up at the same time, like maybe half an hour, an hour after the event had started.
10:21
My friend Peyton, who is a local artist, and my friend Lorraine, who I've talked about on the podcast, who wrote the book Brujas.
Peyton had no idea there was an event going on.
She just was like, I just needed to come here after work today.
Like, I just needed to be around this.
10:37
I needed to be in this space.
And then Lorraine came to support.
But it like, it might surprise you to hear that the event the day after the election when Donald Trump was elected at my metaphysical store that has a rainbow sticker on the front that says everyone is welcome here, turn out was a little low.
10:53
The morale was not high in our community.
And it just turned into like, obviously other people were there and like coming in and out and Kobe was talking to people.
And it was, it was like a good event, but it also got to be this, like moment where we were all together talking about it and holding space for one another.
11:11
And like, I laughed for the first time that day.
And it was like a really solid reminder for me that like, that community is happening here.
Yeah.
Especially like living in Florida, a lot of people like my friends who no longer live here and like even listeners, like the, the idea of leaving the state comes up.
11:35
That's like, I think the first instinct for all of us is like to flee, you know, in that fight or flight.
Yeah.
And my mom and I've been talking a lot about like what this means for us.
And we both agree that more than ever, our purpose is very clear.
11:54
And our purpose is to be a safe haven in these, in these red states, in this place where despite having well more than the majority, the amendment to change our Constitution to, to protect abortion was was rejected because we have bullshit laws to be a safe place.
12:22
And so being there on Wednesday night with other people who are as committed to fighting as I am, it really like made it feel very clear for me of it.
This is, this is where I'm supposed to be, even if it feels really fucking shitty and even if my fear reaction is to flee.
12:40
Like it is my job to stay and fight here and to fight for.
Like, I know that I know that Florida is worth fighting for.
And I know that there are people here who are worth fighting for.
So I got to be with that community on a really bad day out of pure happenstance, even when I really didn't want to do it, and I was very grateful.
13:03
Sorry, that was a tangent.
That's OK, I think.
Necessary, yeah, for.
Sure.
And I think that kind of like leads us into the first thing that we wanted to talk about, which is grief.
And I know that this like sounds weird to say, but I really do think that there is a certain level of magic to grief and not like in the pain itself, Like not to romanticize pain, but I'm saying that to say that there is a certain level of magic to allow yourself to feel the feelings that we as a society have deemed ugly.
13:41
I feel the same way about anger.
Yeah, I think grief is a really powerful emotion because on the other side of it is love, right?
You can't grieve if you didn't once love.
And I always think of grief like through the lens of traditional Chinese medicine, which we talked about a little bit in the autumn equinox episode.
14:03
But grief is the the emotion of the season, right?
It's like the emotion that we might predominantly feel in autumn.
And I often liken it to, you know, grief is kind of like the the leaves on the tree.
14:19
We can choose to hold on to it and avoid it and stuff it down, and the leaves won't drop and the tree won't be able to conserve its nutrients and the tree won't last through the winter.
Or we can feel our grief, let the leaves drop like tears, and come out of that period of grief feeling lighter, right?
14:42
It's not to say that the grief ever really goes away, but it's like when we when we hold it back from being felt, then we it's like we're holding on to those leaves.
We don't have as much space to conserve our energy when we go into that like period of hibernation and introspection, which is necessary in order to take action.
15:04
Yeah.
And especially, like, that is energy that we're going to need.
That is space that we're going to need if we're like, yeah, if we shove down the grief and just go straight to overexerting ourselves emotionally.
Mm hmm.
And we don't give ourselves space to process.
15:22
Yeah, then.
We're going to burn out much quicker.
Yeah, I thought this was like AI thought this was a common like thing.
I thought people realize this.
So I'm just gonna stay it, state it outright.
You're allowed to like have a day where you wallow in your grief or your anger or whatever you're feeling like.
15:41
That's allowed.
That's OK.
You don't have to put on a brief face and be as quote UN quote productive as you were last week.
You know, like I posted on my story on Wednesday that like literally screenshots that I had sent to you and like some of my team members and like the other people that I'm working with like on my book and things like that.
16:02
And I literally was like can we meet tomorrow instead because I'm having trouble processing and like I don't feel creative today hoping it'll come back tomorrow.
And like it's a lay in bed all day day.
And I had so many people reach out and say thank you so much.
16:18
This gave me the permission to take a step back because I felt like I was drowning and everyone else was fine.
No capitalism wants you to be fucking fine and be able to push through and be and produce the same amount you did before the election that you don't have to like you can you can feel your feelings if you are able to createspace for yourself cancel something or just go to bed early or whatever you need to do like do that.
16:47
I have been re watching my comfort show that has not aged well, which is Gossip Girl, the original and that has really helped me process is just like the end of my day.
Instead of like unpacking my house and like putting furniture together, I just sit like a vegetable roll on my couch.
17:04
And I watched Serena and Blair Duke it out, you know, and that's, that's been helping, you know, I started.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer for the first time ever.
Finally.
Oh, I.
Love that for you.
Also I can tell didn't age well, didn't didn't watch it when it when it was not aging, but.
17:23
OK, I need, I need to put this plea out there because you've never watched Gossip Girl.
But if any of our listeners have watched all of Gossip Girl, meaning you know who Gossip Girl is, I know who.
Gossip Girl is.
I know TikTok.
Earns everything.
But I need I need someone who's like in my boat who's like re watching it knows who Gossip Girl is that I can talk to and be like this makes no fucking sense.
17:45
I also.
Know that I've seen the episodes, I've seen the clips.
No fucking sense.
I've seen the clips of Gossip Girl by themselves in a room, reacting negatively to what Gossip Girl has said about them.
Yeah, I know, right?
It makes no.
Sense.
Whatever.
Anyway, I'm just saying.
18:00
That's that's striking.
Me in the best way.
Also, Also, where in New York can a 16 year old openly drink martinis at a bar?
Where is that?
Why is that happening?
And don't say it's just because they're rich, because Jenny Humphrey is also doing it.
18:20
Anyway, I digress.
Anyways, grief.
Anyways, all this to say is you have permission to feel your feelings and you should fucking feel them.
Like whatever you need to do to get that that grief metabolized in your body rather than stagnating.
18:36
You know, whether that's, I mean for me, I literally the day after the election, I go, I have a personal trainer that I see once a week and he literally texted me that morning, 'cause I see him on Wednesdays and he's like, hey, am I gonna see you?
And I was like, yes.
And I usually I'm like, I'm like the worst client for my trainer.
18:55
Like I love them to pieces.
Zach, you're the best.
But I am the worst client because I just show up and I'm like, literally, dude, this is the one hour of my week where I'm not in charge and I don't want to do anything.
So I just complain the entire time and I do the bare minimum and I'm just there to get myself out of my house.
19:11
So I showed up and I was like, Zach, I need, I need you to make me do cardio today.
I need to sweat and disassociate for my body.
And I don't want you to ask me if it's hard or not.
I just want to like do it.
And he's like, Oh my God, you're really not OK.
Is this what it would look like if you cared normally?
19:30
But I felt so much better after.
I was like a sweaty mess and I felt so much better.
I just got that energy out and was able to just like shut my brain off and sweat for an hour.
And that really, really helped me get through the rest of the day.
Yeah, I think a healthy balance between like, because grief is so palpable in the body.
19:55
Yes.
And I really love what you said about metabolizing it instead of letting it stay stagnant, like a healthy balance of moving the feeling through your body and then allowing yourself to rest and feel and experience it.
20:11
I do think it's like for me the the like perfect combination of how to how to, how to metabolize grief.
Yeah, it's like a snow globe.
You shake it up and then you let it settle.
You shake it up, then you let it settle.
You shake it up and you let it settle.
20:28
And I think that's almost how you like, get comfortable in the feeling as well of like, like you said, grief never goes away.
I think that like, this is a pain that we will feel for a long time.
I know I still feel the pain of 2016.
20:44
I still feel that pain and betrayal.
And I think that's what made it so much worse.
All I could think about when the election revolt came through was that 8th grader I mentioned last episode.
He would have been old enough to vote in his first presidential election.
And I was like, oh.
21:01
We got a couple of messages or I think it might have been on my personal too, that people messaged and said, like, I was so excited for my first time voting to be for the first female president and that I was 18 in 2016.
And I was so excited to vote.
21:20
And I was so excited to be like the like the first time I ever did.
It would be this like monumental thing.
And I think that's why it like solidified in me so early that voting is so important.
Like I have a really hard time grasping and understanding people who don't vote and people who aren't politically involved and people who like don't read the news and things like that because I've just always been that way.
21:41
And I think it in part was because of how monumental it felt in 2016 and how inevitable it felt.
And so like, why wouldn't you want to be a part of something so groundbreaking like history is being made?
And that really imparted on me early.
21:59
And it felt like looking at 18 year old me who had no, no understanding.
I remember my mom, we talk about this all the time.
Like she joked with me that if Donald Trump won the presidency, she would pay for me to leave the country.
22:18
And it was like this funny thing of like, ha, ha.
How ridiculous would that be?
Yeah, yeah, there's lots of feelings.
I feel like I went through a period of like guilt on Wednesday too, 'cause I was like, well, at least last time he was elected, I could, I felt like I could do something.
22:37
I was in schools.
I was actively countering his messages.
And I, I don't talk about this often, but I left my job as an advocate in 2018 because I burned out so bad.
I was in such chronic pain, I literally could not continue.
I have so much guilt that I've been working through over the last 6 1/2 years from leaving that job because I just feel like I quit on that movement and it's really difficult for me to see that.
23:03
Like, no, I haven't quit on the movement.
I'm just doing it differently now.
It, it brought up a lot of that guilt again for me, 'cause I was like, oh, I'm doing nothing.
I'm just like able to sit on my porch with my dog on my lap and just feel sad.
23:20
Versus in 2016 when I was like, you know, fighting the fight or whatever and going.
Back to work the next day and doing it, yeah.
Yeah.
And it, it was like, it was such a weird, like, I don't know what the answer is to that, to be honest with you.
23:35
I think maybe just like continuing to speak up is the answer.
But yeah, it was, there was lots of feelings.
So our message to you is whatever your feelings are, are valid.
Let yourself feel them.
Find ways to process them.
I think movement is really powerful.
23:51
I think if we're, if we're talking about like energetically, kind of what a lot of us are feeling is a stifling of our voice and a stifling of our power.
And also the solar plexus is affected, right?
The center of our power, our will, our personal power, and then our, our throat, our communication.
24:11
And I think the heart too, right?
That's where we hold a lot of our grief.
And so one option that you might explore if you're feeling that like heaviness in the body is singing or chanting.
I know there are lots of female rage playlist now available on Spotify.
24:32
Sing them out, get in your car, get in your shower, whatever you want to do.
I personally I really struggle with singing anything above like a a tenor range, but Wicked is coming out and I've never in my life wanted to sing Defying gravity.
24:49
Now I'm all about it Hurts my voice, hurts my ears.
Dogs don't like it, don't care.
Really gets me, gets me into that solar plexus heart throat energy.
So sing it out, sing it out, shake it out that way.
And then once that grief is metabolized like that is step one.
25:11
Step one step. 2 is we do something yeah.
And so we also kind of wanted to talk a little bit about like using, using our magic to fight back.
25:27
Yeah, which I feel like like goes back and forth in the spiritual community.
And so I'm just gonna put like my disclaimer now is that we are not saying like hex the patriarchy and then you're done, right?
Like it is like all things that we talk about on this podcast.
25:45
It is like, how are we going to use our practice to propel ourselves forward?
Because it's going to be a long four years.
Our spiritual practice is here to support us through all phases of life.
And so how can we use it to support this phase of life?
26:03
And I know I taught like a lot of this we both talked about in our magic moments.
But first on our little list is community.
You know, I think a lot about the the fact that like when you're close to another human being, like when you hug someone, if you hug them for long enough, your heartbeats will start to sink.
26:25
You don't even have to hug them, just being in their presence.
Your heartbeat synchronizes.
That happens energetically as well.
And so when you surround yourself with other people who are ready and willing and full of that same metabolized grief, who they are now ready to use to fight, like, I just don't know, a magic more palpable than that, you know, that is the only way through is together.
27:06
So it reminds me of a study that was done and I'm gonna, I'm gonna butcher it if I can find it.
We'll put it in the show notes.
But it was done.
I believe it was like it was in I, it was either, I want to say like Detroit or Chicago.
It was one of those like inner cities.
And what they did was they did a group Transcendental Meditation where they all, at the same time, sat down and meditated together.
27:31
And what they found was the crime rates in that area dropped every time they did that group meditation.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
So it's, it really is powerful, like when you get a group of people together who believe in the same thing and believe in peace and are grounded together, metabolizing that grief rather than acting out of anger and rage and out of like the the sympathetic nervousness from response, that tiger response that a lot of us are feeling right now.
28:01
But when we take a moment to ground, we come together, it literally creates a ripple impact that affects people that are not even a part of the movement.
A. 100% And so finding ways like even if they are not political in nature, like on the surface, right, like participating in community is in itself a radical act.
28:25
Like capitalism is hyper individualized.
It is a system that is designed for you to only be thinking about yourself and your nuclear family.
Yeah.
And when we reject that and when we put energy and love and magic into community and participate in community events and participate in mutual aid, that's something I saw a lot after Helene and Milton was like mutually, it is not just giving money.
28:58
There were people who like I was there was posts on Facebook and Instagram of someone being like, I know of someone who is elderly who can't has no power in their building.
Like can you just run them upstairs and grab them some food?
Yeah, like.
29:14
Just bring food up this like up a set of stairs because they can't walk down it and they just need help like that is that is community helping people like not to bring the Bible into it, but like loving your neighbor, helping your neighbor.
29:35
That is community.
Not like going and knocking on your neighbor's door and introducing yourself if you haven't met them before, asking if they need anything, letting them know that you are a person that they can ask for a cup of sugar.
Yeah.
That is community magic.
29:52
Yeah, I also think too, like, we've talked about this before, but my friend Anna, she introduced me to the idea of mayoral walks, where you walk around, you take a walk, and you just pretend you're the mayor of the town.
And so you just smile and wave at everyone.
30:08
You just say hello to everyone.
She describes it as you, you raw dog, your walk.
So you don't have headphones, you don't have music, you don't have podcasts listening, and you just literally like use it as an opportunity to interact with your community.
I have done this.
At first you feel really silly, but every single person that you smile at smiles back at you.
30:28
Everyone, everyone.
Try it in the grocery store.
That's a really weird one.
You're just walking around the grocery store and you get to the freezer section and instead of being like someone's in my way, you just smile.
How are you?
How's your day going?
You know, like.
30:45
I can't imagine saying hello to everyone in my grocery store.
That's so many hellos.
I'd never, I'd never leave.
Not when.
It's really busy I'd.
Live in the public store like 1/2.
I like to go to the grocery store 1/2 an hour before they close when no one's there.
So I live in a small town now, so yeah, no one's there.
31:01
But I mean, like, you don't have to say hi to everyone, but just like, you know, if you're at the same shelf, you pick.
You pick and choose who is a part of your and.
Choose, pick and choose, pick and choose.
Yeah.
And I think community, it's like, you know, whatever.
31:18
If you felt disconnected from your community, which I know is something that I've been struggling with over the last couple of years, like step out of your comfort zone.
Like now is the time.
Like I'm like, OK, I've always wanted a little library in my area.
31:33
Why don't I make one?
Why don't I be the little library, you know, or like I've always wanted to join a run club.
Suck it.
I'm going to go find one.
I suck at running.
I'm really bad at running.
I can't run to save my life.
31:49
I'm going to go.
I'm going to say hi to the people at the coffee shop that I go to everyday, right?
Like I'm gonna, I'm gonna leave my house in the middle of the day.
Which?
Is something I struggle with.
Even just that extra half second of like, I know we all go through the motions of like I'll continue with the grocery store of like at the checkout counter you say, hey, how are you?
32:14
The person says, good, how are you?
And you move on like the extra second to look that person in the eyes and say, hey, how are you?
Yeah, and.
Create like this extra moment of human connection, like even that is finding community.
32:30
I think that reminding ourselves that there is good in the world on like this, like most micro scale, is the baseline for creating more good in the world.
32:50
Yeah, I have AI have a very simple but very difficult challenge for you all if you choose to accept it.
To do this, anytime someone asks you how are you or how's your day going, instead of responding with good or busy, which I know you all say 'cause I do too.
33:08
I want you to take a breath and answer honestly.
That's how you create connection.
Because what happens when if you say how are you, I'm good.
How are you good ends there.
If someone says how are you, you know, I'm having a really hard day today, but I'm here.
33:24
I'm excited about the protein shakes that were on sale.
How are you doing?
You know, then they have the opportunity to share.
And now you've created a connection.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think being vulnerable and then giving others the opportunity to be vulnerable is is a path.
33:44
You know, one of my most embarrassing stories is a time that I decided to do that.
Tell me it was.
Like I, I literally remember it like it was yesterday and I was with all of my friends in a Chipotle and my boyfriend had just broken up with me.
34:00
And so as we've discussed on the pod, I was in a sorority in college.
Like guys work in the house in the kitchen.
They're called kitchen boys.
They like bring the food out for meals, whatever.
34:16
And so a kitchen boy was also in the Chipotle and he was walking up and he asked everyone how they were doing.
And I just started crying.
And I told him the whole story about my boyfriend had broken up with me.
And I did not know this person at all, but I did.
It's like almost.
It's almost harder like because you're an acquaintance.
34:34
Yeah, it's.
Weirder than if I had done that with a stranger, because then I just had to go to the kitchen the next day and be like, hey, are there any more tortillas?
So if you have a kitchen boy, don't do this.
Do.
They still have kitchen boys.
34:51
Let me know if you go to Florida State University, slide into my DMS and let me know if Kappa Kappa Gamma still has this is.
Where I recognize our our sorority experiences were so different.
I'm like, we didn't even have a kitchen.
Yeah.
SEC school it the ranch dressing.
35:08
Yeah, at.
Florida State University Kappa Kappa Gamma.
Yeah, so good.
I think about it every day I'm gonna.
Need the recipe.
I don't.
Was it thick?
No.
Was it like it's a ranch or was it it was very dressing ranch.
35:24
It was dressing ranch because we had a salad bar is in the salad bar A.
Salad bar it was.
It was the peak of luxury, you know, That's the reason actually, on the other hand, of why it was not the peak of luxury.
That's the reason I stopped being a vegetarian is because the vegetarian food was so bad.
35:43
Like it was just whatever they made.
It was just like 1 block of tofu with whatever sauce was on the chicken just like drizzled on it.
And I was like, I can't live like this.
I'm paying too much money to eat tofu block everyday.
Maybe that doesn't go in the podcast, no.
36:01
I think it should.
I think people need to know about your tofu block trauma and.
My and my reason to not tell strangers how you're doing.
Oh boy, not all of us have a kitchen, boy, Madison.
I know I'm sorry Chuck your privilege be honest with everyone but your kitchen boy.
36:25
Yes, and I remember it was so bad and I like what it was is that I trauma dumped on this person that even my friends couldn't like lie to me and make it better.
Like I could take you back to the Chipotle and show you where I was sitting.
36:42
Oh boy.
So wow.
Yeah.
But yeah.
You should create more opportunities for vulnerability.
I don't regret it at all.
I'm.
Sorry, Oh.
36:57
Our next option for using your magic to fight back is to look for Magic moments in your day.
Maybe keep a journal.
Now's the time.
If you don't have a Magic Moments journal, write one down.
Now more than ever, yeah.
I always call this my evidence log because whenever I have a no good very bad day where I think everything's gone to shit and nothing will ever be better again, I just open up my notes app and I read through all my magic moments and I go and you know, today sucks but at least that ranch dressing from the salad bar is something I have to look forward to.
37:31
Can't relate. 4 hour drive, go get it again.
I think about it sometimes of what would they do?
Do you think they would let me in and would they give me a salad from the salad bar?
Do they even have the same ranch?
Someone please let us know.
I'm like truly I would do anything for someone.
37:47
I've gotten so close.
People who go to UF, University of Florida has like slid into my DMS.
Go Knowles.
There's got to be 1 listener in Tallahassee, FL who can go on this mission for me.
Yeah, that would be our magic moment of the year.
38:03
Let me know if you're my sister for life.
She's doing a hand signal.
Oh boy.
Another option is to do an abundance spell for the organizations that are fighting back, like the ACLU or Planned Parenthood or whatever local orgs you have in your area, making a money bowl for them.
38:24
And then anytime you receive that extra abundance, donating it to them, whether it's $0.23 or $2300, you know, like designating that I was.
Just about to say making a donation and then putting it into your money bowl.
38:41
Like like that print out.
The the confirmation of your donation, stick that in your money bowl.
It's like a 2 for one special, you know, like it's calling in abundance to both of those things.
Calling in more abundance for you to give more, calling in abundance for that organization to receive more donations.
38:56
You know, setting that intention.
You can even like write that, like print it out and then write that on on the piece of paper, you know, or if like even just writing down, like if you make the donation, My first thought in these instances is I don't have a printer at home.
So writing down that you made the donation, you know, like on this day, at this time, I donated XYZI call in more abundance for myself to be able to give more to these organizations.
39:23
I call in more abundance to these organizations from others in the collective.
Stick it in your bowl.
And even like it doesn't, it doesn't have to be a financial donation.
I remember when our, when I was an advocate, our, our local community had like a very, very public sexual assault case.
39:44
And we were like, like, we were the only organization in town to support like thousands of people.
And someone brought us Donuts And that was like, that was the thing that kept me going that day was literally like I got back from a support group and I was like, here's a toe nut.
40:03
It was like those moments like literally brought tears to my eyes.
I was like, I because a lot of us would go back-to-back to back without having lunch.
So it's like when someone brought us lunch, when someone brought us Donuts, when someone dropped off coffee, when someone just asked, how are you doing for the people who are fighting on the on the quote, UN quote front lines of this in those organizations.
40:24
That can mean so much even like when I worked at a retirement community, I would we would do for domestic violence awareness month, we would do a letter writing campaign and we would write letters of gratitude to the advocacy agencies.
So like even doing something like that can be really sweet and really powerful.
40:41
Like think about when COVID first hit and all those little symbols of like we're with you.
We're there like people drawing on chalk on sidewalks, people doing those parades and, you know, beeping like whatever, clapping for people like let's bring that back, bring back that that vivid experience of community support.
41:02
Yes, 100%.
And even like donations and being generous with your time, like donating your time to organizations that you care about.
You know, Planned Parenthood, you'll be hearing from me.
I can't wait to go stand at a little booth and hand out things and ask for donations.
41:22
Yeah.
You know.
Recurring donations can be really powerful too.
Like even if it's just like a dollar a month that you have set up a recurring donation because I, I always reference it, what if everybody did, What if 1000 people donated a dollar a month to that small organization?
41:39
Like they know every month they have that $1000, right that they can lean on.
So even if you feel like, well, there's a lot of organizations I want to support great.
Like divide and conquer, spread it out, get a get a group of friends together and everybody take one and adopt A adopt an organization in your in your friend group for the week or whatever.
41:59
I.
Love the idea of getting together with your friends.
OK, here's what you we should do.
We shouldn't do it because we don't live in the same place.
But if we lived in the same place and had a friend group that all lived in the same place, this is what I would say we do.
You do a PowerPoint night and everybody brings an organization that they want to support.
42:20
Yeah, and.
Talks about why you should support them and what they do and where the money goes and then everybody they divvy it up and everybody gets 1 and that's you make a recurring donation or you volunteer or you write them a thank you card this.
Is literally what sororities do.
Yeah, it is.
42:39
We're just saying, start a sorority.
Yeah.
But finding ways to build that community, create magic moments and bring abundance to the organizations fighting on the front lines, I think that's really powerful.
What if you had a book club that reads Empowering, you know, female protagonist novels with smut that shares your magic moment of the week every week when you meet and then makes a everyone brings $5 and then you donate that to a different organization.
43:12
I love that.
Can we do that?
I wanna do that.
I wanna do that.
OK, I'll be right there.
I.
I feel like I can't even make my move to Florida jokes anymore.
I know.
OK, I hope that this episode has been a little bit of silly times, a little bit of giving your help back, and I hope that it can help you metabolize some of this grief so that we can come back stronger and fucking fight like hell.
43:44
Fight like hell.
For the next 4 years and beyond, because it does not end here.
Next week we're going to talk about some non conventional ways to get back in your magical groove.
If you're feeling like I really can't get there, we're going to talk about it.
So send us your, send us your recommendations, send us your questions.
44:04
And if you don't like how we're talking about Donald Trump in this episode, don't send us anything because we don't care and we don't want to hear it.
We are not taking feedback at this time.
Love you so much.
Love you.
Bye.
Thanks for listening to Demystify Magic with Molly and Madison.
44:22
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Love you.
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0:01
Welcome to Demystify Magic with Molly and Madison.
I'm Molly, a former skeptic turned full time energy healer and teacher.
And I'm Madison, a born and raised witch running my family's crystal shop.
And we're here to explore all things woo through the lens of both science and spirituality, so that you can find the moments of magic in your everyday life and create an intentional spiritual practice.
0:20
So if that's what you're into, find a cozy spot, take a deep breath, and let's demystify some magic.
How do you do D friends?
Duty.
Howdy friends.
It has been quite the week.
It's been a week.
And to be completely honest, I don't know that either of us really knew how to get back in the saddle of creating after this past week.
0:44
For those who maybe don't know or listening to this many years in the future, for which I would love to say to you, please come here and tell me that it's all OK.
If you're from the future, the the United States election was this past Tuesday.
1:01
It'll have been a week since then when this episode comes out and Donald Trump won a second term.
And if you're listening to that and thinking that that's great news, I guess I'm happy you feel that way.
1:17
We don't, and I don't really have any words for it other than like fear is what has been the undercurrent of what I felt over the last few days.
And that has been the undertone of the messages that we've received as well.
1:34
And I will say we did our episode last week on the magic of voting.
Somebody message us saying thank you for that episode.
And I hope that the hate isn't too bad for you guys.
And I will say that we did not get one nasty message.
Yeah, and so I think I got 1.
1:51
Like the way that I've seen this community like come together and show up for each other has been really inspiring.
And I hope that we can continue to do that for the next 4 years, the next 4 decades, as long as it takes.
Can I give you a cool statistic about my community which is an extension of this community please?
2:09
So a few of my creator friends and I all posted kind of like, you know, in this community, trans lives matter, Black lives matter, reproductive rights are human rights, etcetera.
Like we posted our beliefs like really blatantly on our page.
And a lot of my creator friends, they were like, I'm losing thousands of followers.
2:28
And I'm, you know, like I had no idea that such a huge part of my community did not know and resonate with my values.
And I was, I remember last week being so nervous to put that podcast episode out.
We were a wreck about it.
We were, we were so nervous because even though I think my views are pretty obvious, I, you never know until you put them out there.
2:49
And then I realized the T-shirts that I wear in most of my reels, I put that out there.
I put that post out there and lost 453 followers which is .2% of the community which made me feel really good.
3:06
Like a 453 bigots are no longer in our community and B.
Like if our community ever felt like a safe space, I feel like statistically that's been proven because everyone else I know it was like huge percentages of their followers.
3:23
A friend of mine lost like 10K, which like followers are not everything, but it just goes to show like you all are here and we hold the same values.
And that like means more to me than a number on a profile ever could mean.
And it just felt like such a cool.
3:38
Like I always felt like our community was a safe space and I always felt like we're on the same page.
And I feel like that really proved it to me.
Yeah, I had a similar experience.
I posted on the Spellcrafter page because we pull a a card of the day every morning and tell me that it was not the Three of Swords on Tuesday.
3:56
What does that mean?
It's the one.
It's the one with the three swords going through a heart.
Oh, uh huh.
Actually it.
Was on Wednesday, sorry.
It was on Wednesday that we pulled it.
And so I posted a picture of that card with just a call to say that my business is a safe space and my business is a place that will fight for for us, for you, for for everyone.
4:22
And I was terrified to post it.
And I think it's like the most popular post we've ever made.
I don't think I didn't check my follower account before I posted it because I was like, not gonna get myself.
And that's because I haven't looked at the stats.
But no hateful comments.
4:38
Yeah.
Didn't lose.
It's like everything is looks normal.
Yeah.
But all that to say.
We're not afraid to speak up now.
We're not afraid to speak up now.
And if anything, we're just gonna get louder.
So if you don't like it, fuck off.
This is not the podcast for you.
4:56
Yeah, there's 1000 other witchy podcast.
Yeah, and I think that I've learned a lot of hard lessons since 2016, and I am not going to sit quietly through another four years.
5:14
You have not heard the last of me, Donald Trump.
And until it is illegal for me to say it, I will say it.
Fuck you.
Fuck you, Donald Trump.
But all that to say, this episode we are gonna use our mess and talk about how we're getting through it, how we're planning to get through the next four years and how we're planning to use our practice to get there.
5:41
And so if you don't love our chatty episodes, this might not be the one for you.
Because when I tell you our outline is maybe 12 collective words, I tell you our outline, boys.
Yeah, it's not.
We just said we're showing up as our best.
6:00
We're doing the best we can today.
And that's what you're going to get.
Here we are.
And we love you.
Howdy Doody, let's roll.
Molly, what was your magic moment?
My magic moment is I'm recording this for my new house.
Beautiful.
6:19
Feels like such a weird, like it feels weird to be like I had this huge celebration in the midst of this like chaotic shitty week.
I know I was like I had to have a good long hard think about my magic moment.
Yeah, I think magic, we're going to talk about this, but magic moments are so important in times like these because fuck it, I'll just get into it now.
6:40
Because your brain has a negativity bias.
And so it has that because it's designed for survival.
We know this.
We know our brain looks at the negative more than it looks at the positive.
We know that the negative will always outweigh the positive when it comes to your brain's wiring.
And also there are legitimate reasons to be worried and be scared right now.
7:01
And I'm not, you know, saying we shouldn't focus on those things and we shouldn't have those things.
And, and when we start to remember the little moments of magic, the little glimmers, right, that we experience in our day, it can help everything that feels heavy right now feel just a tiny bit lighter, just a tiny bit lighter.
7:24
And that's not to say like, let's bypass all the shit that's happening.
That's to say like we need to lighten the load a little bit if we're going to continue on, right?
Like you can't carry a backpack full of rocks up Mount Everest.
You know, you need to you need to take some of those rocks out.
So my magic moment is we moved.
7:42
I'm in a new house.
It feels great.
It feels very strange still feels like I'm living in a hotel currently recording in a room that is very disorganized and disheveled.
We don't have an oven or a stove right now because we moved in and all our appliances were broken.
8:03
And it's been, it's been lovely and amazing and like a really lovely place to just like rest my head at night.
So that's my magic moment.
What's yours?
So my magic moment is, I'm sorry, election related, but I really realized, like we keep hearing people say how important community is and how important community will be going forward.
8:31
And on Wednesday night, the day after the election, the day that we pulled the Three of Swords, we had an event that had been scheduled for like months, that it was a book launch party for a local witch author, small business owner Kobe Michael, who his second book just came out, The Poison Path Grimoire.
8:58
Highly recommend.
He's a lovely human being and a really talented author and person.
And he asked if he could have if he could host a launch event in the store.
It came out on Election Day.
9:14
And so we were like, OK, like, what's we'll push it back a day.
Like, we'll do it the day after with like the thought process being that things would be very different that day.
And like, full transparency, I did not want to go.
9:31
We had to drive to Orlando for like a wholesale show thing during the day.
And so had been up since like 6:00 AM, losing my marbles, driving to Orlando, pretending to be like a normal human being, got home at like two or three and fully like my body gave out and I took a 2 hour nap that I was not supposed to take.
9:52
And the desire in me to stay in bed and say, I'm sorry, I can't do this was strong.
But I knew Anthony was there and I, you know, I really wanted to show up for Kobe.
And so I got up and I went and two of like, my favorite local friends showed up at the same time, like maybe half an hour, an hour after the event had started.
10:21
My friend Peyton, who is a local artist, and my friend Lorraine, who I've talked about on the podcast, who wrote the book Brujas.
Peyton had no idea there was an event going on.
She just was like, I just needed to come here after work today.
Like, I just needed to be around this.
10:37
I needed to be in this space.
And then Lorraine came to support.
But it like, it might surprise you to hear that the event the day after the election when Donald Trump was elected at my metaphysical store that has a rainbow sticker on the front that says everyone is welcome here, turn out was a little low.
10:53
The morale was not high in our community.
And it just turned into like, obviously other people were there and like coming in and out and Kobe was talking to people.
And it was, it was like a good event, but it also got to be this, like moment where we were all together talking about it and holding space for one another.
11:11
And like, I laughed for the first time that day.
And it was like a really solid reminder for me that like, that community is happening here.
Yeah.
Especially like living in Florida, a lot of people like my friends who no longer live here and like even listeners, like the, the idea of leaving the state comes up.
11:35
That's like, I think the first instinct for all of us is like to flee, you know, in that fight or flight.
Yeah.
And my mom and I've been talking a lot about like what this means for us.
And we both agree that more than ever, our purpose is very clear.
11:54
And our purpose is to be a safe haven in these, in these red states, in this place where despite having well more than the majority, the amendment to change our Constitution to, to protect abortion was was rejected because we have bullshit laws to be a safe place.
12:22
And so being there on Wednesday night with other people who are as committed to fighting as I am, it really like made it feel very clear for me of it.
This is, this is where I'm supposed to be, even if it feels really fucking shitty and even if my fear reaction is to flee.
12:40
Like it is my job to stay and fight here and to fight for.
Like, I know that I know that Florida is worth fighting for.
And I know that there are people here who are worth fighting for.
So I got to be with that community on a really bad day out of pure happenstance, even when I really didn't want to do it, and I was very grateful.
13:03
Sorry, that was a tangent.
That's OK, I think.
Necessary, yeah, for.
Sure.
And I think that kind of like leads us into the first thing that we wanted to talk about, which is grief.
And I know that this like sounds weird to say, but I really do think that there is a certain level of magic to grief and not like in the pain itself, Like not to romanticize pain, but I'm saying that to say that there is a certain level of magic to allow yourself to feel the feelings that we as a society have deemed ugly.
13:41
I feel the same way about anger.
Yeah, I think grief is a really powerful emotion because on the other side of it is love, right?
You can't grieve if you didn't once love.
And I always think of grief like through the lens of traditional Chinese medicine, which we talked about a little bit in the autumn equinox episode.
14:03
But grief is the the emotion of the season, right?
It's like the emotion that we might predominantly feel in autumn.
And I often liken it to, you know, grief is kind of like the the leaves on the tree.
14:19
We can choose to hold on to it and avoid it and stuff it down, and the leaves won't drop and the tree won't be able to conserve its nutrients and the tree won't last through the winter.
Or we can feel our grief, let the leaves drop like tears, and come out of that period of grief feeling lighter, right?
14:42
It's not to say that the grief ever really goes away, but it's like when we when we hold it back from being felt, then we it's like we're holding on to those leaves.
We don't have as much space to conserve our energy when we go into that like period of hibernation and introspection, which is necessary in order to take action.
15:04
Yeah.
And especially, like, that is energy that we're going to need.
That is space that we're going to need if we're like, yeah, if we shove down the grief and just go straight to overexerting ourselves emotionally.
Mm hmm.
And we don't give ourselves space to process.
15:22
Yeah, then.
We're going to burn out much quicker.
Yeah, I thought this was like AI thought this was a common like thing.
I thought people realize this.
So I'm just gonna stay it, state it outright.
You're allowed to like have a day where you wallow in your grief or your anger or whatever you're feeling like.
15:41
That's allowed.
That's OK.
You don't have to put on a brief face and be as quote UN quote productive as you were last week.
You know, like I posted on my story on Wednesday that like literally screenshots that I had sent to you and like some of my team members and like the other people that I'm working with like on my book and things like that.
16:02
And I literally was like can we meet tomorrow instead because I'm having trouble processing and like I don't feel creative today hoping it'll come back tomorrow.
And like it's a lay in bed all day day.
And I had so many people reach out and say thank you so much.
16:18
This gave me the permission to take a step back because I felt like I was drowning and everyone else was fine.
No capitalism wants you to be fucking fine and be able to push through and be and produce the same amount you did before the election that you don't have to like you can you can feel your feelings if you are able to createspace for yourself cancel something or just go to bed early or whatever you need to do like do that.
16:47
I have been re watching my comfort show that has not aged well, which is Gossip Girl, the original and that has really helped me process is just like the end of my day.
Instead of like unpacking my house and like putting furniture together, I just sit like a vegetable roll on my couch.
17:04
And I watched Serena and Blair Duke it out, you know, and that's, that's been helping, you know, I started.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer for the first time ever.
Finally.
Oh, I.
Love that for you.
Also I can tell didn't age well, didn't didn't watch it when it when it was not aging, but.
17:23
OK, I need, I need to put this plea out there because you've never watched Gossip Girl.
But if any of our listeners have watched all of Gossip Girl, meaning you know who Gossip Girl is, I know who.
Gossip Girl is.
I know TikTok.
Earns everything.
But I need I need someone who's like in my boat who's like re watching it knows who Gossip Girl is that I can talk to and be like this makes no fucking sense.
17:45
I also.
Know that I've seen the episodes, I've seen the clips.
No fucking sense.
I've seen the clips of Gossip Girl by themselves in a room, reacting negatively to what Gossip Girl has said about them.
Yeah, I know, right?
It makes no.
Sense.
Whatever.
Anyway, I'm just saying.
18:00
That's that's striking.
Me in the best way.
Also, Also, where in New York can a 16 year old openly drink martinis at a bar?
Where is that?
Why is that happening?
And don't say it's just because they're rich, because Jenny Humphrey is also doing it.
18:20
Anyway, I digress.
Anyways, grief.
Anyways, all this to say is you have permission to feel your feelings and you should fucking feel them.
Like whatever you need to do to get that that grief metabolized in your body rather than stagnating.
18:36
You know, whether that's, I mean for me, I literally the day after the election, I go, I have a personal trainer that I see once a week and he literally texted me that morning, 'cause I see him on Wednesdays and he's like, hey, am I gonna see you?
And I was like, yes.
And I usually I'm like, I'm like the worst client for my trainer.
18:55
Like I love them to pieces.
Zach, you're the best.
But I am the worst client because I just show up and I'm like, literally, dude, this is the one hour of my week where I'm not in charge and I don't want to do anything.
So I just complain the entire time and I do the bare minimum and I'm just there to get myself out of my house.
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So I showed up and I was like, Zach, I need, I need you to make me do cardio today.
I need to sweat and disassociate for my body.
And I don't want you to ask me if it's hard or not.
I just want to like do it.
And he's like, Oh my God, you're really not OK.
Is this what it would look like if you cared normally?
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But I felt so much better after.
I was like a sweaty mess and I felt so much better.
I just got that energy out and was able to just like shut my brain off and sweat for an hour.
And that really, really helped me get through the rest of the day.
Yeah, I think a healthy balance between like, because grief is so palpable in the body.
19:55
Yes.
And I really love what you said about metabolizing it instead of letting it stay stagnant, like a healthy balance of moving the feeling through your body and then allowing yourself to rest and feel and experience it.
20:11
I do think it's like for me the the like perfect combination of how to how to, how to metabolize grief.
Yeah, it's like a snow globe.
You shake it up and then you let it settle.
You shake it up, then you let it settle.
You shake it up and you let it settle.
20:28
And I think that's almost how you like, get comfortable in the feeling as well of like, like you said, grief never goes away.
I think that like, this is a pain that we will feel for a long time.
I know I still feel the pain of 2016.
20:44
I still feel that pain and betrayal.
And I think that's what made it so much worse.
All I could think about when the election revolt came through was that 8th grader I mentioned last episode.
He would have been old enough to vote in his first presidential election.
And I was like, oh.
21:01
We got a couple of messages or I think it might have been on my personal too, that people messaged and said, like, I was so excited for my first time voting to be for the first female president and that I was 18 in 2016.
And I was so excited to vote.
21:20
And I was so excited to be like the like the first time I ever did.
It would be this like monumental thing.
And I think that's why it like solidified in me so early that voting is so important.
Like I have a really hard time grasping and understanding people who don't vote and people who aren't politically involved and people who like don't read the news and things like that because I've just always been that way.
21:41
And I think it in part was because of how monumental it felt in 2016 and how inevitable it felt.
And so like, why wouldn't you want to be a part of something so groundbreaking like history is being made?
And that really imparted on me early.
21:59
And it felt like looking at 18 year old me who had no, no understanding.
I remember my mom, we talk about this all the time.
Like she joked with me that if Donald Trump won the presidency, she would pay for me to leave the country.
22:18
And it was like this funny thing of like, ha, ha.
How ridiculous would that be?
Yeah, yeah, there's lots of feelings.
I feel like I went through a period of like guilt on Wednesday too, 'cause I was like, well, at least last time he was elected, I could, I felt like I could do something.
22:37
I was in schools.
I was actively countering his messages.
And I, I don't talk about this often, but I left my job as an advocate in 2018 because I burned out so bad.
I was in such chronic pain, I literally could not continue.
I have so much guilt that I've been working through over the last 6 1/2 years from leaving that job because I just feel like I quit on that movement and it's really difficult for me to see that.
23:03
Like, no, I haven't quit on the movement.
I'm just doing it differently now.
It, it brought up a lot of that guilt again for me, 'cause I was like, oh, I'm doing nothing.
I'm just like able to sit on my porch with my dog on my lap and just feel sad.
23:20
Versus in 2016 when I was like, you know, fighting the fight or whatever and going.
Back to work the next day and doing it, yeah.
Yeah.
And it, it was like, it was such a weird, like, I don't know what the answer is to that, to be honest with you.
23:35
I think maybe just like continuing to speak up is the answer.
But yeah, it was, there was lots of feelings.
So our message to you is whatever your feelings are, are valid.
Let yourself feel them.
Find ways to process them.
I think movement is really powerful.
23:51
I think if we're, if we're talking about like energetically, kind of what a lot of us are feeling is a stifling of our voice and a stifling of our power.
And also the solar plexus is affected, right?
The center of our power, our will, our personal power, and then our, our throat, our communication.
24:11
And I think the heart too, right?
That's where we hold a lot of our grief.
And so one option that you might explore if you're feeling that like heaviness in the body is singing or chanting.
I know there are lots of female rage playlist now available on Spotify.
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Sing them out, get in your car, get in your shower, whatever you want to do.
I personally I really struggle with singing anything above like a a tenor range, but Wicked is coming out and I've never in my life wanted to sing Defying gravity.
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Now I'm all about it Hurts my voice, hurts my ears.
Dogs don't like it, don't care.
Really gets me, gets me into that solar plexus heart throat energy.
So sing it out, sing it out, shake it out that way.
And then once that grief is metabolized like that is step one.
25:11
Step one step. 2 is we do something yeah.
And so we also kind of wanted to talk a little bit about like using, using our magic to fight back.
25:27
Yeah, which I feel like like goes back and forth in the spiritual community.
And so I'm just gonna put like my disclaimer now is that we are not saying like hex the patriarchy and then you're done, right?
Like it is like all things that we talk about on this podcast.
25:45
It is like, how are we going to use our practice to propel ourselves forward?
Because it's going to be a long four years.
Our spiritual practice is here to support us through all phases of life.
And so how can we use it to support this phase of life?
26:03
And I know I taught like a lot of this we both talked about in our magic moments.
But first on our little list is community.
You know, I think a lot about the the fact that like when you're close to another human being, like when you hug someone, if you hug them for long enough, your heartbeats will start to sink.
26:25
You don't even have to hug them, just being in their presence.
Your heartbeat synchronizes.
That happens energetically as well.
And so when you surround yourself with other people who are ready and willing and full of that same metabolized grief, who they are now ready to use to fight, like, I just don't know, a magic more palpable than that, you know, that is the only way through is together.
27:06
So it reminds me of a study that was done and I'm gonna, I'm gonna butcher it if I can find it.
We'll put it in the show notes.
But it was done.
I believe it was like it was in I, it was either, I want to say like Detroit or Chicago.
It was one of those like inner cities.
And what they did was they did a group Transcendental Meditation where they all, at the same time, sat down and meditated together.
27:31
And what they found was the crime rates in that area dropped every time they did that group meditation.
That's interesting.
Yeah.
So it's, it really is powerful, like when you get a group of people together who believe in the same thing and believe in peace and are grounded together, metabolizing that grief rather than acting out of anger and rage and out of like the the sympathetic nervousness from response, that tiger response that a lot of us are feeling right now.
28:01
But when we take a moment to ground, we come together, it literally creates a ripple impact that affects people that are not even a part of the movement.
A. 100% And so finding ways like even if they are not political in nature, like on the surface, right, like participating in community is in itself a radical act.
28:25
Like capitalism is hyper individualized.
It is a system that is designed for you to only be thinking about yourself and your nuclear family.
Yeah.
And when we reject that and when we put energy and love and magic into community and participate in community events and participate in mutual aid, that's something I saw a lot after Helene and Milton was like mutually, it is not just giving money.
28:58
There were people who like I was there was posts on Facebook and Instagram of someone being like, I know of someone who is elderly who can't has no power in their building.
Like can you just run them upstairs and grab them some food?
Yeah, like.
29:14
Just bring food up this like up a set of stairs because they can't walk down it and they just need help like that is that is community helping people like not to bring the Bible into it, but like loving your neighbor, helping your neighbor.
29:35
That is community.
Not like going and knocking on your neighbor's door and introducing yourself if you haven't met them before, asking if they need anything, letting them know that you are a person that they can ask for a cup of sugar.
Yeah.
That is community magic.
29:52
Yeah, I also think too, like, we've talked about this before, but my friend Anna, she introduced me to the idea of mayoral walks, where you walk around, you take a walk, and you just pretend you're the mayor of the town.
And so you just smile and wave at everyone.
30:08
You just say hello to everyone.
She describes it as you, you raw dog, your walk.
So you don't have headphones, you don't have music, you don't have podcasts listening, and you just literally like use it as an opportunity to interact with your community.
I have done this.
At first you feel really silly, but every single person that you smile at smiles back at you.
30:28
Everyone, everyone.
Try it in the grocery store.
That's a really weird one.
You're just walking around the grocery store and you get to the freezer section and instead of being like someone's in my way, you just smile.
How are you?
How's your day going?
You know, like.
30:45
I can't imagine saying hello to everyone in my grocery store.
That's so many hellos.
I'd never, I'd never leave.
Not when.
It's really busy I'd.
Live in the public store like 1/2.
I like to go to the grocery store 1/2 an hour before they close when no one's there.
So I live in a small town now, so yeah, no one's there.
31:01
But I mean, like, you don't have to say hi to everyone, but just like, you know, if you're at the same shelf, you pick.
You pick and choose who is a part of your and.
Choose, pick and choose, pick and choose.
Yeah.
And I think community, it's like, you know, whatever.
31:18
If you felt disconnected from your community, which I know is something that I've been struggling with over the last couple of years, like step out of your comfort zone.
Like now is the time.
Like I'm like, OK, I've always wanted a little library in my area.
31:33
Why don't I make one?
Why don't I be the little library, you know, or like I've always wanted to join a run club.
Suck it.
I'm going to go find one.
I suck at running.
I'm really bad at running.
I can't run to save my life.
31:49
I'm going to go.
I'm going to say hi to the people at the coffee shop that I go to everyday, right?
Like I'm gonna, I'm gonna leave my house in the middle of the day.
Which?
Is something I struggle with.
Even just that extra half second of like, I know we all go through the motions of like I'll continue with the grocery store of like at the checkout counter you say, hey, how are you?
32:14
The person says, good, how are you?
And you move on like the extra second to look that person in the eyes and say, hey, how are you?
Yeah, and.
Create like this extra moment of human connection, like even that is finding community.
32:30
I think that reminding ourselves that there is good in the world on like this, like most micro scale, is the baseline for creating more good in the world.
32:50
Yeah, I have AI have a very simple but very difficult challenge for you all if you choose to accept it.
To do this, anytime someone asks you how are you or how's your day going, instead of responding with good or busy, which I know you all say 'cause I do too.
33:08
I want you to take a breath and answer honestly.
That's how you create connection.
Because what happens when if you say how are you, I'm good.
How are you good ends there.
If someone says how are you, you know, I'm having a really hard day today, but I'm here.
33:24
I'm excited about the protein shakes that were on sale.
How are you doing?
You know, then they have the opportunity to share.
And now you've created a connection.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think being vulnerable and then giving others the opportunity to be vulnerable is is a path.
33:44
You know, one of my most embarrassing stories is a time that I decided to do that.
Tell me it was.
Like I, I literally remember it like it was yesterday and I was with all of my friends in a Chipotle and my boyfriend had just broken up with me.
34:00
And so as we've discussed on the pod, I was in a sorority in college.
Like guys work in the house in the kitchen.
They're called kitchen boys.
They like bring the food out for meals, whatever.
34:16
And so a kitchen boy was also in the Chipotle and he was walking up and he asked everyone how they were doing.
And I just started crying.
And I told him the whole story about my boyfriend had broken up with me.
And I did not know this person at all, but I did.
It's like almost.
It's almost harder like because you're an acquaintance.
34:34
Yeah, it's.
Weirder than if I had done that with a stranger, because then I just had to go to the kitchen the next day and be like, hey, are there any more tortillas?
So if you have a kitchen boy, don't do this.
Do.
They still have kitchen boys.
34:51
Let me know if you go to Florida State University, slide into my DMS and let me know if Kappa Kappa Gamma still has this is.
Where I recognize our our sorority experiences were so different.
I'm like, we didn't even have a kitchen.
Yeah.
SEC school it the ranch dressing.
35:08
Yeah, at.
Florida State University Kappa Kappa Gamma.
Yeah, so good.
I think about it every day I'm gonna.
Need the recipe.
I don't.
Was it thick?
No.
Was it like it's a ranch or was it it was very dressing ranch.
35:24
It was dressing ranch because we had a salad bar is in the salad bar A.
Salad bar it was.
It was the peak of luxury, you know, That's the reason actually, on the other hand, of why it was not the peak of luxury.
That's the reason I stopped being a vegetarian is because the vegetarian food was so bad.
35:43
Like it was just whatever they made.
It was just like 1 block of tofu with whatever sauce was on the chicken just like drizzled on it.
And I was like, I can't live like this.
I'm paying too much money to eat tofu block everyday.
Maybe that doesn't go in the podcast, no.
36:01
I think it should.
I think people need to know about your tofu block trauma and.
My and my reason to not tell strangers how you're doing.
Oh boy, not all of us have a kitchen, boy, Madison.
I know I'm sorry Chuck your privilege be honest with everyone but your kitchen boy.
36:25
Yes, and I remember it was so bad and I like what it was is that I trauma dumped on this person that even my friends couldn't like lie to me and make it better.
Like I could take you back to the Chipotle and show you where I was sitting.
36:42
Oh boy.
So wow.
Yeah.
But yeah.
You should create more opportunities for vulnerability.
I don't regret it at all.
I'm.
Sorry, Oh.
36:57
Our next option for using your magic to fight back is to look for Magic moments in your day.
Maybe keep a journal.
Now's the time.
If you don't have a Magic Moments journal, write one down.
Now more than ever, yeah.
I always call this my evidence log because whenever I have a no good very bad day where I think everything's gone to shit and nothing will ever be better again, I just open up my notes app and I read through all my magic moments and I go and you know, today sucks but at least that ranch dressing from the salad bar is something I have to look forward to.
37:31
Can't relate. 4 hour drive, go get it again.
I think about it sometimes of what would they do?
Do you think they would let me in and would they give me a salad from the salad bar?
Do they even have the same ranch?
Someone please let us know.
I'm like truly I would do anything for someone.
37:47
I've gotten so close.
People who go to UF, University of Florida has like slid into my DMS.
Go Knowles.
There's got to be 1 listener in Tallahassee, FL who can go on this mission for me.
Yeah, that would be our magic moment of the year.
38:03
Let me know if you're my sister for life.
She's doing a hand signal.
Oh boy.
Another option is to do an abundance spell for the organizations that are fighting back, like the ACLU or Planned Parenthood or whatever local orgs you have in your area, making a money bowl for them.
38:24
And then anytime you receive that extra abundance, donating it to them, whether it's $0.23 or $2300, you know, like designating that I was.
Just about to say making a donation and then putting it into your money bowl.
38:41
Like like that print out.
The the confirmation of your donation, stick that in your money bowl.
It's like a 2 for one special, you know, like it's calling in abundance to both of those things.
Calling in more abundance for you to give more, calling in abundance for that organization to receive more donations.
38:56
You know, setting that intention.
You can even like write that, like print it out and then write that on on the piece of paper, you know, or if like even just writing down, like if you make the donation, My first thought in these instances is I don't have a printer at home.
So writing down that you made the donation, you know, like on this day, at this time, I donated XYZI call in more abundance for myself to be able to give more to these organizations.
39:23
I call in more abundance to these organizations from others in the collective.
Stick it in your bowl.
And even like it doesn't, it doesn't have to be a financial donation.
I remember when our, when I was an advocate, our, our local community had like a very, very public sexual assault case.
39:44
And we were like, like, we were the only organization in town to support like thousands of people.
And someone brought us Donuts And that was like, that was the thing that kept me going that day was literally like I got back from a support group and I was like, here's a toe nut.
40:03
It was like those moments like literally brought tears to my eyes.
I was like, I because a lot of us would go back-to-back to back without having lunch.
So it's like when someone brought us lunch, when someone brought us Donuts, when someone dropped off coffee, when someone just asked, how are you doing for the people who are fighting on the on the quote, UN quote front lines of this in those organizations.
40:24
That can mean so much even like when I worked at a retirement community, I would we would do for domestic violence awareness month, we would do a letter writing campaign and we would write letters of gratitude to the advocacy agencies.
So like even doing something like that can be really sweet and really powerful.
40:41
Like think about when COVID first hit and all those little symbols of like we're with you.
We're there like people drawing on chalk on sidewalks, people doing those parades and, you know, beeping like whatever, clapping for people like let's bring that back, bring back that that vivid experience of community support.
41:02
Yes, 100%.
And even like donations and being generous with your time, like donating your time to organizations that you care about.
You know, Planned Parenthood, you'll be hearing from me.
I can't wait to go stand at a little booth and hand out things and ask for donations.
41:22
Yeah.
You know.
Recurring donations can be really powerful too.
Like even if it's just like a dollar a month that you have set up a recurring donation because I, I always reference it, what if everybody did, What if 1000 people donated a dollar a month to that small organization?
41:39
Like they know every month they have that $1000, right that they can lean on.
So even if you feel like, well, there's a lot of organizations I want to support great.
Like divide and conquer, spread it out, get a get a group of friends together and everybody take one and adopt A adopt an organization in your in your friend group for the week or whatever.
41:59
I.
Love the idea of getting together with your friends.
OK, here's what you we should do.
We shouldn't do it because we don't live in the same place.
But if we lived in the same place and had a friend group that all lived in the same place, this is what I would say we do.
You do a PowerPoint night and everybody brings an organization that they want to support.
42:20
Yeah, and.
Talks about why you should support them and what they do and where the money goes and then everybody they divvy it up and everybody gets 1 and that's you make a recurring donation or you volunteer or you write them a thank you card this.
Is literally what sororities do.
Yeah, it is.
42:39
We're just saying, start a sorority.
Yeah.
But finding ways to build that community, create magic moments and bring abundance to the organizations fighting on the front lines, I think that's really powerful.
What if you had a book club that reads Empowering, you know, female protagonist novels with smut that shares your magic moment of the week every week when you meet and then makes a everyone brings $5 and then you donate that to a different organization.
43:12
I love that.
Can we do that?
I wanna do that.
I wanna do that.
OK, I'll be right there.
I.
I feel like I can't even make my move to Florida jokes anymore.
I know.
OK, I hope that this episode has been a little bit of silly times, a little bit of giving your help back, and I hope that it can help you metabolize some of this grief so that we can come back stronger and fucking fight like hell.
43:44
Fight like hell.
For the next 4 years and beyond, because it does not end here.
Next week we're going to talk about some non conventional ways to get back in your magical groove.
If you're feeling like I really can't get there, we're going to talk about it.
So send us your, send us your recommendations, send us your questions.
44:04
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